You have to put it somewhere, her bottom I mean, so you can spank it. I find it most convenient to have her over my lap, which allows not only for ease of swatting but also for close personal contact. That’s very important to me, being close, and as you’ve read here before it also makes possible the clench-and-lift with my left arm that Gwen finds so appealing. My comfort also is a factor, as is hers, counter-intuitive as that sounds. One would surmise that a girl’s DIScomfort is the goal here, but as Lori said just recently the sting should be localized to the bottom, and in this instance I agree. In fact the girl really has it easy over my lap, lying prone, usually on the bedside so her whole body is softly supported – well, except for the bit that’s atop my steely thigh muscles and my nail hard … um … never mind – and really she hasn’t a care in the world aside from the fierce ouchiness in her bum. And of course in this position you have her and her cute little situpon right where you want them, and she isn’t going anywhere until you decide to let her.
That circumstance, my complete control of a naughty girl, is perfectly acceptable to naughty girls of my acquaintance, unless perhaps a flat-backed hairbrush becomes involved. Wooden artifacts aren’t terribly well liked in my circle – I would say they are tolerated at best. But this is a position ramble and not an implement dissertation so I won’t go too deeply into that issue. The point is that if you’re doing it right, the girl eventually will become sufficiently uncomfortable even in this best of positions to want to get out of it, or at least to request that you turn down the tempo and ferocity of your spanks. The time this takes to occur depends on the individual. Some girls would stay there for days, hairbrush swats notwithstanding, but others are happy to call it quits once a bright rosy glow in the nether cheeks has been attained. In most cases I give the latter category of girls a few swats more than she thinks she really needs, just to be sure the point is made, while it’s the former who can be trying at times. Even the strongest arm eventually tires, even the sturdiest of thigh muscles become fatigued beneath sustained pressure in maintaining this position over long periods of time. The remedy of course is to change position, or even *GASP* to try a different position at the start.
But before I make that leap of faith I should mention that even having the girl over my lap has other possibilities. If I’m in a mood to be lewd, and if the girl is limber and not prone to muscle cramps, the bedside position is perfect for splaying her legs and straddling her atop my thighs, and then trapping her ankles behind my calves and against the bedrail, thus opening her bottom and completely exposing her naughty bits. Of course that would be horrid and mean and nasty, and would embarrass her nearly to tears. Wouldn’t it, Gwen? Then the tender, sensitive flesh along the inner slopes of the cleft may be spanked – but do keep in mind that it IS tender and sensitive and don’t get carried away. And since I’m large and athletic and Gwen is … er … the girl is light and petite, it’s also possible for me to flip her over and put her in the diaper position on my lap, that is, with her back on my thighs, her legs up and pushed backward at the hips, so she can watch the glee on my face while I spank her well-bended behind. Nothing embarrassing there, right, Princess? Hm? Your WHAT shows when I do that? Watch your language, young lady!
So since I brought up the issue of the diaper position I’ll start with that as an alternative to over the lap spanking. The term of course derives from the way one positions a baby to change its nappy, which adds a layer of helplessness and vulnerability to what already is a deeply submissive pose. Normally the diaper position is best for bed or sofa, though I have seen it done on a piano bench, with the girl supine and me sitting or standing beside her, a tight grip on her raised ankles with my non-spanking hand. Or I might have her kneel on the bed with her shoulders well down, bottom well up, her tummy pressed to her thighs – sort of an inverted diaper position, and again a very exposed, very submissive posture – but one that still allows for close, restraining contact, as I kneel beside and hold onto her while I spank.
Of course she could simply lie facedown on the bed, her hips raised by a stack of pillows to lift and round the soft target. Such a position is useful when long implements such as belts or switches are involved, but not conducive to personal contact. To get the correct snap with a switch or crack with a belt I need an unfettered windup, which I don’t get if I’m holding onto her. Then too there’s the issue of staying in position, and thereby hangs a tale. (Insert your own pun.) Any time I require a girl to assume a pose that doesn’t involve my actual grip on her body, several issues come into play. Yes, of course she is submissive; of course she wants and needs to feel the sting of the rod, the crack of the belt, the ouch of my hard hand; naturally she is intensely desirous of pleasing me, of making me know how much she respects me by taking all I care to give her, but the question remains whether she can physically endure such strenuous discipline without rolling off the bed and crawling under it. Since I do tend to coddle my girls and an on-the-bed belt whipping typically doesn’t even leave marks, though it does draw very sincere yelps, I don’t worry much about that question but still I wanted to put it out there for consideration. Most spankees are submissive to the degree that they will endure whatever they must, and in some cases more than they should, in order to receive the vital sting to their bottoms that is their fondest dream, and not incidentally to please their spankers so as to insure that such lessons are repeated frequently. Although they appreciate being held, these girls specialize in self-restraint.
However, there is a certain type of girl who is simply incapable of staying in position on her own because that would make HER responsible for the horrid, nasty, awful things THAT MAN is doing to her bottom. (Gwen: I love you, too, Uncle D. *G*) Actual physical restraint is essential, and I’m not talking about bondage – being tied up is cheating – but for her to stay in position would be like asking to be spanked, and that would spoil the illusion of coerced compliance. A case in point is a scene I wrote in “Lady Faulcon’s Rogue.” or rather my coauthor’s reaction to it, in which the heroine realized she had done something so stupid and dangerous that she knew for certain the hero would spank her, so in an effort to assuage his anger she bent over and dropped her pants before he told her to. Georgia wouldn’t have it, and I had to rewrite the scene. Even a make-believe girl never ASKS for a spanking, no matter how naughty she’s been, not in Georgia’s worldview anyway.
All right, all right, I really should talk about positions. Schoolgirls usually bend over to have a paddle applied to their shapely rears, and I wrote 80 or 90 such punishments in the Maid novels. Okay, those numbers probably are way off because I never counted, but there were a LOT in the Red Blossom College scenarios, sometimes five or six girls at a time. Lisa, the maid in ‘A Maid for All Seasons,’ also had to bend and lift her skirts for a good hiding on occasion, as did some naughty nuns and a few female prison guards elsewhere in the collection, but my point is that bending and baring for a spanking in my world is mostly a matter of fiction. One reason for that situation is the aforementioned contact issue. In real life I want to have a hold on the girl, but in fantasy or in role-play I find it invigorating to order a girl into position and know that she’ll stay put – more or less – until her chastisement is complete. Previously I mentioned the video shoot with Erica Scott. It wasn’t until very late in the script, after I had spanked her long and hard with hand, hairbrush and paddle across my lap, and also convinced her through the dialog that she not only deserved but also needed a no nonsense belting, that I and the viewer found it believable that she knelt on the seat of a chair and offered her bottom to the cleansing leather. I venture to say that all guys, myself included, like to see a girl bent over, panties down, bottom ready for the smack of the paddle, the whisp of the cane, the mutually invigorating handclap, but in my opinion it has to be the guy’s ethical, moral and/or emotional strength that keeps her there while her fanny reddens and heats.
As I said before, it’s much easier to swing a belt, a rod, a paddle, or an aluminum skillet for that matter, when she’s bending over a desk, kneeling on a chair, or doubled over in the middle of the room gripping her ankles and all you have to do is stand nearby, haul back, and whack. Perhaps some girls prefer that, and please don’t think that I’m saying there’s only one preferred way to spank. Variety is the ginger … um … the spice of life.
Just remember that there are two of you involved here, and both your preferences should come into play. I will never forget a date I had with a girl less than half my age who showed up at our party spanking appointment in full schoolgirl kit. That surprised me and no doubt my eyes bulged, and I’m sure my blood pressure went through the roof, but after I lifted her little plaid skirt and pulled down her Hello Kitty panties and spanked her bottom pink, it was she who looked at my blue jean belt and said it was nice and she would like to feel it. My heart soared like a hawk, of course, and seeing her on the bed in my hotel room, her adorable bare tushy uplifted by pillows, where SHE had put herself, very nearly caused a stroke. But I persevered, despite the lack of contact with this naughty minx, and the yelps after each stroke were lark’s song at dawn to my ears.
So yes, by all means, put her and her bottom wherever you want them – across your thighs, bent over a desk, knelt on a chair seat, on all fours or curled like a hedgehog with her knees at her nose on the bed – or let her have you put her there, by intimation and subtle hints, or simply by copying her assigned essay from some web site, which will get any schoolgirl I know a seriously paddled behind in less than a trice – whatever the heck a trice is.
A small ramble here against the modernist tendancy to use the sofa, or bed, for oTK spanking…………..why? and I think your ramble proves this. The best postions work best with the bottom raised, elevated, presented by th recipient. A sofa or bad falttes the whole thing out and allows the luxury of stretching out in comparative comfort……….OTk requires a straight backed chair; the bottom becomes the most elevated physical part and thus the centre of attention and the legs are free to express spontaneous discomfort, you also have a sense of control over the recipient that you don’t get when most of thier weight is distributed on a matress…….my small blow for purity of technique in OTK…………ramble endeth.
Excellent points, sir, and well taken. Even though her bottom can and should be raised a bit higher while over my lap on sofa or bed, that does require extra exertion not necessary when I sit in a chair and bend her across my thighs.
Still, I maintain that the optimum situation for spanking a sit-upon is while I’m seated at the end of chaise longue, simply because then the chair back doesn’t interfere with my swing, yet her behind is, as you say, elevated and presented to best advantage – well, my advantage anyway.
In discussions about various spanking positions there’s one I’ve never seen mentioned, though for my gf Maggie and me it’s one of our favourites. It’s most commonly used by us when we wake up together in the small hours and either she, or I, or both of us feel a little loving spanking would be nice before we drift back to sleep.
Here’s what happens. (I’m describing it from the pov of a mainly right-handed spanker who sleeps on the left of the bed, but obviously adjust accordingly.) After a little caressing and kissing, I roll Maggie over towards me on her front, with my left leg bent under her. This raises and rounds her bottom, with my kneecap positioned just under her clit so she can rub against it. My left arm’s under her, hugging her round her shoulders, while I spank her with my right hand. While I’m spanking her she can reach down with her left hand and stroke my penis.
It’s a sweetly intimate and loving position – you’re cuddling and kissing, besides the pleasure of spanking and genital stimulation. Can’t believe we’re the only ones who use this, as it seems to happen so naturally when we’re in bed together.
I came on here just before I have to go and do some work at home (not homework- oh no- that is entirely different) and read this whole piece and then Philip’s comments and now….how on earth am I supposed to do any work now?
There should be a warning with these types of posts. There really should.
Poppy – sorry you had to stumble across this post unaware. Very distracting, indeed! As you said, certain posts should come with warnings.
So as one friend to another, NEVER read Michael’s Corner Time post from March 3, 2008 if you have pressing items on your to-do list. Trust me, not even a brisk walk will help you out on that one.
For the same reason, you might also want to avoid Devlin’s “What Does One DO to a Naughty Girl” post (look up top under the masthead).
When all else fails, those packages of frozen peas we all then to stockpile may be used for more than just cooling off a toasted tushy. Just FYI.
Ugh. That should be “above the masthead”. Sorry, again. I really MUST remember to finish my entire cup of coffee in the morning before attempting to post. Just don’t know why my mind is so scattered this morning!
I have work to do and you have just told me that I must not read;
“How Spankings Happen.”
“What Does One DO To A Naughty Girl”
“Corner Time” (March 3rd)
Got it.
What I will do is take a quick peak at those before I do any more work so that I will be sure to know just what to avoid. I would hate to be caught unawares.
As Samuel F.B. Morse might have telegraphed, “What hath Dev wrot?” And Philip too, come (!) to that. Mercy sakes, guy! We’ll get Dave Wolfe to draw a diagram of that one, and then I’d SAY ‘blushing at both ends.’ *G*
Season, it’s okay – so long as you’re in the vicinity of my masthead you can get away with just about anything. (!)
Poppy, what sort of label did you have in mind? “Caution: May Cause Over Stimulation”? “Warning: Naughty Girls Should Not Attempt To Operate Machinery Whilst Reading This”? “Governmental Advisory: Emulation Is The Sincerest Form Of Flattery”?
And Gwen – it’s time for the thermometer and probably a cold shower. I’ll bring the loofah.
Sorry, Phil and Poppy, I’m not getting pulled into a duel using archaic language. It’s easy for Dev, all he has to do is remember the language from his days as a child.
I understand that gays have a code of sorts for signaling their sexual interests using bits of cloth, scarves, bandanas and such. Not that I’d know what it is. But it’s interesting that the concept goes beyond maritime use, or did this code originate with sailors as well? Poppy, perhaps you know something about this as well?
“Ay am releeved te be freee of thees mowdern spellyngs- they de contreect me eva sew.”
*sigh* Well, it seems you have confused ‘archaic’ with ‘incorrect,’ Poppy. But that’s all right. I’ll get the hickory stick and you fetch your navy jumper, bottle green knickers and knee socks out of the cedar trunk, and I will give you a long, effective, old fashioned (though hardly archaic) spelling lesson. No, really. It’s no bother at all.
I am hurt. Here I am merely following your lead like the obedient and lovely girl that I am and you react with such an uncalled for offer that it quite takes my breath away. I feel a little faint and am off for a lie down.
If you would bring a cup of tea in about an hour that would aid my recovery and it would be most kind.
Following my lead, you say? I would not and could not lead you into that level of brattishness, young lady, and you will forget lie-downs and teacups for the time being since you have a previous engagement with a hickory switch. I know you didn’t forget so get a wriggle on.
A small ramble here against the modernist tendancy to use the sofa, or bed, for oTK spanking…………..why? and I think your ramble proves this. The best postions work best with the bottom raised, elevated, presented by th recipient. A sofa or bad falttes the whole thing out and allows the luxury of stretching out in comparative comfort……….OTk requires a straight backed chair; the bottom becomes the most elevated physical part and thus the centre of attention and the legs are free to express spontaneous discomfort, you also have a sense of control over the recipient that you don’t get when most of thier weight is distributed on a matress…….my small blow for purity of technique in OTK…………ramble endeth.
Excellent points, sir, and well taken. Even though her bottom can and should be raised a bit higher while over my lap on sofa or bed, that does require extra exertion not necessary when I sit in a chair and bend her across my thighs.
Still, I maintain that the optimum situation for spanking a sit-upon is while I’m seated at the end of chaise longue, simply because then the chair back doesn’t interfere with my swing, yet her behind is, as you say, elevated and presented to best advantage – well, my advantage anyway.
Thanks for chiming in, Recidavist!
-Dev
In discussions about various spanking positions there’s one I’ve never seen mentioned, though for my gf Maggie and me it’s one of our favourites. It’s most commonly used by us when we wake up together in the small hours and either she, or I, or both of us feel a little loving spanking would be nice before we drift back to sleep.
Here’s what happens. (I’m describing it from the pov of a mainly right-handed spanker who sleeps on the left of the bed, but obviously adjust accordingly.) After a little caressing and kissing, I roll Maggie over towards me on her front, with my left leg bent under her. This raises and rounds her bottom, with my kneecap positioned just under her clit so she can rub against it. My left arm’s under her, hugging her round her shoulders, while I spank her with my right hand. While I’m spanking her she can reach down with her left hand and stroke my penis.
It’s a sweetly intimate and loving position – you’re cuddling and kissing, besides the pleasure of spanking and genital stimulation. Can’t believe we’re the only ones who use this, as it seems to happen so naturally when we’re in bed together.
It’s 29 degrees outside but it’s 118 in my office. … Yum, Philip, YUM …
Oh my goodness.
I came on here just before I have to go and do some work at home (not homework- oh no- that is entirely different) and read this whole piece and then Philip’s comments and now….how on earth am I supposed to do any work now?
There should be a warning with these types of posts. There really should.
I need a brisk walk…or something.
Poppy – sorry you had to stumble across this post unaware. Very distracting, indeed! As you said, certain posts should come with warnings.
So as one friend to another, NEVER read Michael’s Corner Time post from March 3, 2008 if you have pressing items on your to-do list. Trust me, not even a brisk walk will help you out on that one.
For the same reason, you might also want to avoid Devlin’s “What Does One DO to a Naughty Girl” post (look up top under the masthead).
When all else fails, those packages of frozen peas we all then to stockpile may be used for more than just cooling off a toasted tushy. Just FYI.
That should read, “tend to” not “then to”. Sorry.
Ugh. That should be “above the masthead”. Sorry, again. I really MUST remember to finish my entire cup of coffee in the morning before attempting to post. Just don’t know why my mind is so scattered this morning!
Poppy – you should probably also avoid Dev’s “How Spankings Happen” piece.
Must. Stop. Surfing. This. Blog.
Season.
I have work to do and you have just told me that I must not read;
“How Spankings Happen.”
“What Does One DO To A Naughty Girl”
“Corner Time” (March 3rd)
Got it.
What I will do is take a quick peak at those before I do any more work so that I will be sure to know just what to avoid. I would hate to be caught unawares.
Thanks for the heads up!
Poppy, you are welcome! You have a good approach and I plan to emulate you.
“I plan to emulate you.”
OK but gently, it is a Sunday after all.
LOL! Wish I could keep my countenance and feed you another straight line but I am simply ROTFLM*O.
As Samuel F.B. Morse might have telegraphed, “What hath Dev wrot?” And Philip too, come (!) to that. Mercy sakes, guy! We’ll get Dave Wolfe to draw a diagram of that one, and then I’d SAY ‘blushing at both ends.’ *G*
Season, it’s okay – so long as you’re in the vicinity of my masthead you can get away with just about anything. (!)
Poppy, what sort of label did you have in mind? “Caution: May Cause Over Stimulation”? “Warning: Naughty Girls Should Not Attempt To Operate Machinery Whilst Reading This”? “Governmental Advisory: Emulation Is The Sincerest Form Of Flattery”?
And Gwen – it’s time for the thermometer and probably a cold shower. I’ll bring the loofah.
Wonderful description, Phil, Amanda and I do something very similar, and you are right it is very intimate and usually leads to other things.
Gwen, you should also thank Phil for saving you money on your heating bill. *G*
I see Poppy and Season are following the naughty girl approach to avoiding work. Why do I think they will soon be illustrating those posts for us all.
First – “How Spankings Happen.” – one reason is when a girl is naughty and reads posts instead of doing her work.
Second – “What Does One DO To A Naughty Girl” – One spanks a naughty girl especially when she should be doing work and not peeking at posts.
Third – “Corner Time” (March 3rd) – This is where said naughty girl ends up after her spanking. Nose in the corner and red ouchy bum on display.
Of course in this case it will be *girls* as both Season and Poppy are misbehaving and need to be shown these posts up close and personal.
I don’t know what either of you are talking about.
I stopped reading this and have been getting on with my work for ages now.
“What hath Dev wrot?”
I don’t know, Dev, maybe a new way to spell wrought? Or is that a new way to spell rot? *G*
In any case I love your suggested warning labels.
This is your work, Poppy, commenting on the blog? Nice work if you can get it.
“Wrot” – archaic past tense of ‘write.’ Just so you know. And thanks, Bro! *G*
He is confused- maybe overheated like Gwen- hence the cold shower.
Do we get to use archaic spellings ?
Really?
Archaic, just like a certain writer of spanking erotica I know, and I’m NOT talking about Philip Kemp.
Verily, Sirrah, that mightily relieveth my mind….
Ay am releeved te be freee of thees mowdern spellyngs- they de contreect me eva sew.
Sorry, Phil and Poppy, I’m not getting pulled into a duel using archaic language. It’s easy for Dev, all he has to do is remember the language from his days as a child.
Michael,
You are having so many pops at Dev that you sound like one of us!
Now be nice or you will make Gwen mad at you. What a topsy turvey world we live in.
I understand that gays have a code of sorts for signaling their sexual interests using bits of cloth, scarves, bandanas and such. Not that I’d know what it is. But it’s interesting that the concept goes beyond maritime use, or did this code originate with sailors as well? Poppy, perhaps you know something about this as well?
You’re on the wrong thread, Karl, and why would Poppy know something about scarves and bandanas as signals and not you?
“Ay am releeved te be freee of thees mowdern spellyngs- they de contreect me eva sew.”
*sigh* Well, it seems you have confused ‘archaic’ with ‘incorrect,’ Poppy. But that’s all right. I’ll get the hickory stick and you fetch your navy jumper, bottle green knickers and knee socks out of the cedar trunk, and I will give you a long, effective, old fashioned (though hardly archaic) spelling lesson. No, really. It’s no bother at all.
-Dev
Karl, “Not that I’d know what it is.”
I think thost protest too much!
However, if you would like to know gay code. You may ask me or google a site that would help you out.
Dev,
I am hurt. Here I am merely following your lead like the obedient and lovely girl that I am and you react with such an uncalled for offer that it quite takes my breath away. I feel a little faint and am off for a lie down.
If you would bring a cup of tea in about an hour that would aid my recovery and it would be most kind.
Thanks awfully.
Following my lead, you say? I would not and could not lead you into that level of brattishness, young lady, and you will forget lie-downs and teacups for the time being since you have a previous engagement with a hickory switch. I know you didn’t forget so get a wriggle on.
Very well done, Poppy, an admirable try! I’m sure you’ll get him the next time.
“I’m sure you’ll get him the next time”
I feel that this someone getting someone is entirely the wrong way around for my liking.
Hurumph.
“Season, it’s okay . . . you can get away with just about anything.”
Duly noted! Where to start?
Season, just remember that ‘get away with’ doesn’t mean ‘not have to pay for with an ouchy bottom.’ Just so we’re clear on that. *G*
And Poppy, I’ll be sure you’re the right way around, i.e., face down over my lap, when the getting gets underway.
There will be no getting got as long as I get any say in the getting of gotting.
Or something…..
Need another lie down. Head hurts.
You could not possibly place a girl with a sore head in such an ignoble position.
(Hickory switch? Is that related to the clock of the three blind mice? Is that how they turned it on?)